The Get Healthy Tampa Bay Podcast

E120: Understanding ADHD in Kids–Diagnosis, Treatment, and Parenting Support with Dr. Sadek.

Kerry Reller

Welcome to the Get Healthy Tampa Bay Podcast with Dr. Kerry Reller! This week, I’m joined by Dr. Reham Sadek, a child, adolescent, and adult psychiatrist based in Tampa and the author of Parenting Kids with ADHD: From Frustration to Fulfillment.

In this episode, Dr. Sadek explains what ADHD really is—a neurodevelopmental disorder of the brain—and how it differs from typical childhood behavior. We discuss how symptoms show up differently in boys vs. girls, the importance of early diagnosis, and why delaying treatment can actually cause more harm.

Dr. Sadek shares evidence-based strategies to support children with ADHD, from medication and therapy to parenting tools and ADHD coaching. She also opens up about what inspired her to write her book and how adjusting the home environment can make a world of difference.

Whether you’re a parent, teacher, or healthcare provider, this episode offers practical insights to better understand and support kids with ADHD.

00:00 – Welcome and intro to Dr. Reham Sadek
00:57 – Dr. Sadek’s background and training in psychiatry
02:23 – What is ADHD and why do psychiatrists love treating it?
03:44 – ADHD vs. ADD: what’s changed and why
06:22 – Common signs and symptoms parents should know
08:32 – Why ADHD must show up in multiple settings to diagnose
10:32 – Differences in ADHD presentation between boys and girls
11:29 – Why early treatment for ADHD is so critical
15:14 – Risk factors for ADHD, including genetics and environment
17:46 – Treatment options: meds, therapy, ADHD coaching, digital tools
23:39 – Emotional toll on kids and families—and how treatment helps
25:57 – Dr. Sadek’s book: Parenting Kids with ADHD
28:27 – Helping parents handle guilt, burnout, and frustration
30:59 – Dr. Sadek’s one big piece of advice: treat early
32:24 – Her next book idea: childhood obesity and mental health

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Kerry:

All right. Hi everybody. Welcome back to the Get Healthy Tampa Bay podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Kerry Reller, and today we have Dr. Reham Sadek. Welcome to the podcast.

Reham:

Thank you so much. Thank you for having me.

Kerry:

Yes. I'm so excited to hear all about what you do and everything. So tell us a little bit about basically who you are and what you do, and I think you're, you're in Sarasota, right?

Reham:

No, I'm actually in Tampa. I'm in.

Kerry:

Okay, great. Okay. All right. So tell us a little about who you are and what you do.

Reham:

Okay. So I am a board certified psychiatrist. I specialize in children adolescents, but I'm also an adult psychiatrist, so I do both. And I'm working on getting my board certification in obesity medicine as well. And I'm also a publisher. I'm a wife, I am a mom on a lot of things. So but professionally a psychiatrist children, adolescents, and adults. I do inpatient and I do also have a private practice on the side. So I do both inpatient and outpatient.

Kerry:

Definitely staying really busy and obviously we're gonna talk about it, the publishing part but you're a busy person. That's wonderful. And did you, you trained in Tampa as well?

Reham:

So I I graduated medical school in Egypt CAIR University, and then I did my residency in Chicago, Chicago Medical School. And then I came to Florida and this is where the, the link to Florida. Florida to do a fellowship at USF for children adolescent psychiatry. So this is where I did my child training and then I I had it in mind that I'm going to stay in Florida and I'm never moving.

Kerry:

Yeah.

Reham:

stayed, yeah.

Kerry:

Awesome. Well, I'm so glad you ended up here. That's wonderful. So we were going to talk about understanding basically A DHD and what A DHD is? What is it really? How does it different from typical childhood behaviors?

Reham:

Wow. Okay, so I have a passion for A DHD. I love A DHD, and I tell you, most child psychiatrists do for a simple reason that we, doctors typically love what we can fix. I'm sure you can relate to that. So any illness that has streamlined, fairly easy, simple, straightforward treatment, we love because we feel like we can make a lot of difference. We can help a lot of people. So what a DHD is? A DHD is a neuropsychiatric disorder, which means it's a disorder of the brain that has behavioral component to it, or behavioral manifestations. So the illness itself happens here in the brain, but the manifestations include a lot of things. Part of it is behavior, part of it is mood, part of it is sleep. So it's a lot of things in ADHD. The common mistake that we, we make is kind of like stigmatized and say, oh, he's just a bad kid, or he's just a, a hyper kid or not well-behaved, or it's just poor parenting and we blame the parents and that's really not accurate at all. So A DHD starts in the brain, but it manifests in many ways.

Kerry:

So what does it stand for and why did we had pre previously called it ADD?

Reham:

So A DHD is attention deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. we used to separate and call it ADD, which was without the hyperactive part, so Attention Deficit Disorder. But the DSM changed the name for whatever reason. And they, they just removed the ADD, and now it became Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder as a one umbrella. But there are subtypes to it. So there is one type that kind of like focuses on in attention alone, hyperactivity alone or both together.

Kerry:

You have no idea why they changed it?

Reham:

I, I, I don't have a clear idea of why I believe they just kind of like felt to the hyperactivity is a, I don't wanna speak for them of course, but the hyperactivity is a major component. Even if it's not, and, and we see this clinically in A DHD, children and adults, the hyperactivity may not manifest in the, I am moving a lot or jumping around or climbing the walls, but it's. It's on the inside. So I am sitting, but I'm fidgeting or my thoughts are so scattered and, and going all over the place. So it's kind of like innate. and you hear that from patients a lot. So I, I guess that's the reason, but it's the illness itself, the pathology itself did not really change. It's just the name. And this is a common thing with d sm if you look at DSM two or three, or four or five, completely different naming and different organization, I don't think schizophrenia changed. I don't think OCD changed. Illness is the illness its just naming,

Kerry:

And DSM is the criteria that the big book

Reham:

it's the manual, yes. The statistical manual. That kind of gives us the criteria to diagnose mental illnesses because mental illness is very subjective. You come to talk to the patient, the patient tells you how they feel. So I could be listening to the same patient and based on what they tell me, I, I would give a, a specific diagnosis and then comes the next psychiatrist and listen to the same patient and give a different diagnosis. So we wanted to avoid that and have it more like unified. So we're, when when two psychiatrists interview the same patient, they will come up with fairly close, if not the same diagnosis. So that is why we have a criteria and we have a manual. We go by.

Kerry:

Okay. Yeah. What, so what are some of the most common signs or symptoms that, you know, parents should look out for?

Reham:

For A DHD. So think about the name. It's the simplest way to remember. It's the hyperactivity and the in in attention with the hyperactivity. It's just someone who cannot C cell, very hyper moving a lot, have that urge to move and. Sometimes the movement are not really, not purposeful. So the person would be going back and forth repeating the same thing going from one chair to the next without really a reason. And also when you're sitting down fidgeting, you're tapping your foot or moving your fingers or doing something, you gotta be doing something all the time. And the typical, rambunctious all over the place, kid. So that's for the hyperactivity. The inattention, again, the name explains it. Someone who's inattentive cannot pay attention, cannot sustain attention, especially on tasks that require mental effort so they can focus on a video game or watching a YouTube video. Or doing something that's interesting to them or easy or doesn't require them to focus or do something. But when it comes to doing a math problem that requires really sustained attention, really focusing, they have a problem with that. And that's an important distinction because I hear it all the time from parents when they say, I don't think my kid has an attention, because they can sit for hours and play video games. It's not, it's not that you don't measure it based on their ability to do an easy task that doesn't require them to do anything. They're just on the receptive side. But when it comes to actually actively doing something that requires attention, then they start to struggle. And then also with that comes the forgetfulness, the losing things, the misplacing things doing the homework and forgetting to turn it in even though they did it. And so on.

Kerry:

So you are, you're kind of bringing up the points without saying, it also is some, one of the parts of how you evaluate, right, is looking at the home life, right, and looking at the school life or something like that,

Reham:

Absolutely. In order to make officially the diagnosis, these manifestations have to be present in at least two different settings. Usually it's home and school, but it could be, I mean, if someone is homeschooled, it would be home and somewhere else, maybe the playground or maybe church. Or something like that. There's also another, so psychiatrists, we always think about illnesses beyond the DSM four. Okay. And, and a and a good, well-trained psychiatrist always does that. So when you think about A DHD, you look at the criteria of the dsm, but there are things that, that we know. Exists in the, in A DHD that are not specifically listed there as one of the criteria. And sometimes that's a source of confusion. For example, impulsivity. So impulsivity could be shared between many mental illnesses. For example, bipolar disorder. So impulsivity is really a, a huge component of A DHD because these, these kids are often. Very quick to, to act before they think, which, if you think about it, it could be part of the hyperactivity. It's almost like your brain is moving faster than you can control or think about. So, and then there is a mood component. a lot of times kids come because the mood instability is a problem. They're just very irritable. You can't talk to them. Nobody can talk to them. They get angry so quickly. And that kind of manifested in many ways. And then that would be like the main problem that they're coming up for. And a lot of times people confuse this or is it depression with the irritability? Is it bipolar? Is it something else? But you have to keep in mind that A DHD in itself has a lot of mood components.

Kerry:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Are there any different presentations with like girls and boys?

Reham:

Girls tend to have more of the inattentive and which is why they don't get diagnosed early on as much as boys do. Boys tend to have the hyperactivity part more often and the impulsivity part more often. So they, so because they are disruptive to the environment, because of the hyperactivity, they get noticed, they get. Send to get an evaluation, get the date so they are diagnosed earlier. The girls tended to be sitting in the back of the classroom daydreaming and not paying attention, but she's not disrupting anybody. She's not annoying to anybody. So they tended to get, get for forgotten, and they don't get diagnosed as early as really we should or we would like them to.

Kerry:

Mm-hmm. Are there any, well, let's just put it this way for treatment wise and stuff is why is early intervention so important for the, for the kids?

Reham:

Oh my God, don't get me started. This is one of my favorite, favorite topics to talk about to talk about with anybody really, especially with with parents who

Kerry:

I.

Reham:

always come and, and they have good intentions. Of course, they want what's best for their kids, but they think. I'm going to delay putting them on medicine as much as I can, because if they're just getting by and functioning, let them be. So there is a huge room for improvement and for education here that we, doctors in general, pediatricians primary care and psychiatrist, of course, there's a lot of, there's a, a huge room for improvement in education we can do in this, in this area. It's very important to understand that when you have a DHD, you have an illness, okay? There is a fundamental imbalance happening in the brain. So you have a disorder, and in order for me to help you, I have to, to treat you. I cannot just give you a diagnosis and send you on your way. That's not how we practice medicine. You don't give someone a diagnosis of strep throat and you tell them, go goodbye. You have strep throat. See ya. You offer treatment and you offer different options and you treat, you treat basically. So with a DHD, if you don't treat early, there is is a, a huge list of complications and problems that can happen down the line if you are not addressing the problem. So the big one that really scares a lot of people when I tell them about is the risk for substance abuse. So you are afraid to put your child on medication because you don't want them to get addicted to methamphetamine methamphetamine or amphetamine or Adderall or lin. But then by you not treating the illness, you are actually putting them at risk for substance abuse. The real substance abuse, the marijuana, and the cocaine and the methamphetamine down the line. So you have to understand that this is just one example. So these kids, when they are not treated properly and early, first of all, think about the a, the academic outcome. It's, it's school is gonna be very difficult. They will hate school. They have risk of not graduating, dropping out. Poor grades, they never reach their potential. They could do a lot better if we have treated them. And some of them just, if it's really bad enough, by the time they can drop out, they will drop out because school is so hard, they don't wanna do it. Other things and, and also huge problem with social component. So for example, even at younger age. These kids are annoying, rambunctious, hyper disruptive. Often the other kids don't wanna play with them, so they get rejected. They don't get invited to birthday parties. Nobody wants to deal with them. Even the teacher, they're not the teacher's favorite, and they know it. The kids know it. So that creates a lot of depression and anxiety, lack of self-esteem. They feel like, so what's wrong with me? And they, they can't control it. It's not their fault. So if we're not treating them, we're basically doing harm and basically punishing them for an illness they did not choose to have.

Kerry:

That being said I know we were gonna talk about treatment more, but what, how do they, obviously they're not choosing to have this, but what are, are there risk factors or anything? Thing that could be related to actually getting it.

Reham:

Genetics. Genetics is a huge part of it. So when the parents have a DHD, even if it was never diagnosed, that's a risk factor. there are risk factors related to pregnancy, smoking during pregnancy. Prematurity if, if they're born premature. but again, genetics is the big, is the biggest risk factor.

Kerry:

So you mentioned like already medication to treat the, for a DHD in children. What about, are there any of the other alternatives or how, how do you approach this?

Reham:

Okay, so the main the main treatment for A DHD is medication. It's a, it's a chemical imbalance in the brain, and no therapy can treat it by talking, by you talking to someone no matter what you say or how, how you do it. You cannot make them focus or you cannot make them less hyper. So the main treatment is medication. There are other things that can help, for example. A DHD there is a huge correlation between a DHD and ODD, which is oppositional defined disorder, that is a behavioral disorder. So treatment with therapy such as pa parent child interactive therapy that can help with ODD because it can help with the parent learn how to manage this behavior. Behavioral therapy, CBT can help if there is depression or an anxiety associated. We can help with that with therapy also. But it's very important to understand therapy is not going to treat the A DHD itself that has to be treated with medications. Okay? Now for older kids, preteens and teenagers and early adulthood. I often recommend getting an A DHD coach. That's not a therapist, okay? It's a coach that's going to teach you fundamental skills that you need to learn. So that you can manage your own life, you can manage your own finances, you can manage how to remember things and not forgetting appointments, and not forgetting to pay your bills on time and not forgetting to go places. And you would think as a normal person who doesn't have a DHD, these tasks are easy and we just do it. It's, there is no big deal. But for someone who with A DHD, just getting organized and sitting down and finishing a task or responding to an email or booking an appointment and keeping it, it could be a huge challenge. Okay, so an A DHD coach can really be helpful in that area. And now there have been newer modalities that are coming now on the market and becoming available to patients now, not just in research setting, which is this digital therapeutics. So basically that could be an app or a video game that helps these kids pay attention more and help with a DHD symptoms.

Kerry:

Very interesting with the app and the developments coming down the line. That's pretty

Reham:

Yeah. Yeah.

Kerry:

Yeah. Are there any like big myths or misconceptions that you'd like to correct about A DHD? I think you've kind of already went over one of

Reham:

Yeah, the biggest is they're just, they're just kids are being kids. Just let them be kids. No, you gotta look at. We all know that kids can be moving a lot. That's normal for a kid to be moving and playing and running. That's what kids do. But look at the, did they cross the threshold of having an issue or a problem? Is this problem interfering with my functioning, with my ability to have a normal or closer to closest to normal life? Is it interfering with me in a social. Environment, is it interfering that in the classroom? I'm always being in trouble. I'm always getting called out or or, or sent to the office or something like that. So yes, kids are kids and they will be playful and hyper to some extent. But am I within the average, within the norm for my peers from the same age or do I have a little bit more of just, you know, something more that crosses that threshold of having a problem or an issue.

Kerry:

Mm-hmm.

Reham:

And, and that also the second point is, which let's just delay treatment because delaying treatment is kind of like avoiding, exposing to the kids. To the medication for as long as possible. That is a huge myth because you are, yes, you're not exposing them to the medications, but they are being exposed to the illness every single day. So think about that. So it's delaying, I always say, say delaying treatment is doing harm.

Kerry:

How young would you start someone on a medication?

Reham:

Depending on the situation, there is really no age and some of these medications are approved as early as age three years old,

Kerry:

Oh my gosh. Wow.

Reham:

so, so do for, and I say this for primary care, for pediatricians, do not be scared to treat someone who's young if there is a significant enough problem that would require or warrant treatment.

Kerry:

I like how you mentioned the A DHD coach. I think I've heard of this you know, solution, and I have some colleagues that do that, and it's just amazing what, how they can help pe I don't know, clients, patients, whatever you wanna call it to really be able to function better, like, you know, in society and socially and in at work. It's, it's very impressive. So I definitely agree with recommending that, for sure. Yeah.

Reham:

I think this is it's becoming more popular now because people are finding out about it and learning more about it and hiring these coaches and it, it's very helpful because they teach them skills that will stay with them for the rest of their lives. I.

Kerry:

Do you think that medication and the behavioral therapy work best together as well to be doing that?

Reham:

ES especially for the comorbidities for if there is an an anxiety depression or ODD. Yes, absolutely. Of course.

Kerry:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Do you have any wonderful success stories from your practice that you'd like to share?

Reham:

Too many, too many to, to really remember. And it, it just makes my day when I hear a parent telling me, oh my God, it's day and night difference. And, and they are very, very happy and very pleased. And or when they call you and they say. My kid got invited to a birthday for the first time. It's just, it gives me goosebumps.

Kerry:

Yeah, it's, it's a very stressful situation and I'm sure that you deal with this. Well in your book that we're gonna talk about in a second, but, you know, even in our, I guess, school and social circle, I, you know, the other parents are, you know, discussing about other kids when they have a problem and they're, they're kind of stigmatized a little bit, right? Like you said, they don't get invited to the birthday parties. They don't want them to be on that team because they don't wanna have to deal with that because the kid is too rambunctious and things like that. And it is really sad that that happens, but. I think having somebody like you that they can work with and help them can really help, you know, better their overall, I guess, up upbringing and everything to make their life so much more fulfilling as well, and to be included in everything. So I think it's really important to not delay treatment basically, like you said, it's important to get in there and get help.

Reham:

It happens to the parents too, by the way, because if

Kerry:

Yes it does. Yeah.

Reham:

You are also not gonna be invited that often to someone's house or someone's party because, or a wedding or something like that, because they don't wanna have to deal with the damage that your kid can cause. Especially these special occasions, people prepare for so much and put a lot of effort, time, and money, and they're not gonna take the risk with inviting you if you have a child that could ruin the party for everyone. So. So it becomes a whole family problem,

Kerry:

Yes. That's so true. Yeah. So you wrote this book recently?

Reham:

yes, and I have the

Kerry:

Kids with A DHD. Oh, perfect. You have a copy? What is the under part? I obviously haven't read it yet'cause it's

Reham:

So, so it's parenting kids with A DHD from frustration to fulfillment. And I really wanted to focus on this because I feel like this is really what the book offers to people. The book offers. Solutions. Solution that will help the kid, of course, but then also it will help the parents. And more importantly, in my opinion, it will help improve the relationship between the parent and the child. Because think about this, if you are raising your kid, and all you do all day is to correct them and give them consequences and tell them what they messed up in and what they did wrong, and that's not a good relationship. You don't even have time to foster a relationship because that's all you do all day. So when you, when you learn some techniques and some skills to help you become a calmer parent, a parent who is more in control, a parent who knows how to handle situations. Who is prepared because these situations will happen. Okay? So when you have a plan, okay, if the, if the kid does this, I know what I'm gonna do, I don't know how to handle it, then you are a little bit more calm, you feel in control, then you have more time to foster your relationship with your child. And that's very important. So it's, it's a, a guide to understand and support your neurodivergent child. And it offer practical strategies to improve focus, emotional regulation like we spoke how big part of a DHD that is, and self-control. So the book is for parents. Of course. A kid is not gonna read the book. The parents need to read the book. And the book is approaching it from two aspects from an age group. So we're talking, we're dividing it up from like, preschool, elementary school, middle school, high school and then also talking about how to approach it when you have different comorbidities going on. So when you have autism going on, or when you have ODD going on, or when you have an anxiety or OCD and so on.

Kerry:

Well, I was gonna ask what kind of, what inspired you to write it? I don't know if that already was part of what you said from like kind of getting the parent in the Well

Reham:

Okay. The, the, really, the main reason is I get asked these questions all the time. So I wanted to have a book that is a reference for parents. And, and the, the book is really it. The book works. You don't have to read it in order. You can just open any chapter that you feel like, I wanna read about this, I wanna learn about this. And then you can do that. And then, so it's, it's a basically a reference, something you get back, you go back to and you check, what do I do in that situation? And because we get asked these questions all the time, I decided to write the books. So that was really the, the, the drive behind it.

Kerry:

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And then Eileen, how you say, you can jump around and it's more of a guide, right? I

Reham:

It is. Yes. So there is no specific order

Kerry:

Is there like a certain chapter or something that you thought was kind of your favorite that you, or strategy that you wanna share?

Reham:

I don't really know. No, not, not really. Nothing specific jumps to mind. I talk a lot about, Adjusting the environment

Kerry:

Mm-hmm.

Reham:

at home, because a lot of times we fail these kids by not providing them the tools that they need because we don't know what they need. We don't know. It's a, it's a their brain works different. We all know that their brain is wired differently, so we really don't know what goes in here and we don't know how to help them. So I think what I would say, this is my favorite part in the book, talking about adjusting the environment. So that your environment at home, your, the area where you study or the area where you do homework or the area where you eat your meals is kind of like geared towards a different child, not having a lot of distractions having everything organized and labeled and clear and the kid knows exactly what to expect and what they're supposed to be doing. Organizing your play area where the kid plays. It's more for younger kids, of course. And then the, the study part where, where, where we do homework and how we should organize that in a way that will help the kid and avoid issues and conflicts and problems.

Kerry:

Mm-hmm. How would you say in your, in your book or in practice, that you help families kind of manage these feelings of guilt, blame, burnout,

Reham:

Lots of psychoeducation, a lot of. Just talking to them and letting them know that it's not their fault. They did not create this problem, they didn't do anything wrong. And big part of it is inherited. And the, if the kid got it from the parents, the parents probably got it from somebody who probably went undiagnosed and untreated. So a lot of psychoeducation I would say this is, this is really, I, I spend a lot of time doing that especially on first appointments, especially like when I meet them for the first and second and third time. We really talk a lot. We really focus on educating them how to look at it in a different way to approach it in a different way. And then once we kind of get them stable and on their way then there they can manage it and they can handle it. And of course once you introduce the medications also, and if that makes a big difference, which it, it does in most cases, that can also be very helpful.

Kerry:

Yeah. So what is one piece of advice you might give a parent who just received an A DHD diagnosis for their child? I.

Reham:

I would say treat as early as you can. Do not put it off. Do not think this problem is gonna go away by itself. They are not gonna grow out of it. And even if they grow out of one symptom, it doesn't mean the illness is gone. So the hyperactivity, so this is, this is another mess. Thank you for bringing this up and reminding me. So you look at the kid when they were six or seven, they're more hyper. They're moving a lot. Okay? Once they go to middle school and high school, they're not as hyper. They're not jumping off the wall. High school kid is not gonna be climbing on the, the couches, okay? They don't do that it, but that doesn't mean the illness is gone, the illness is there. It's manifesting in a different way or. God forbid the kid is already reaching out to marijuana to treat their own problems because they were never offered. They were never given a chance. So if I have one piece of advice to read as early as possible, do not delay. Do not put it off and do not be scared. Do not be scared. You're not doing harm to your child if you put them on Adderall. It's the opposite. You are doing harm if you don't treat, if you prevent them and, and deprive them from getting a chance at better education, better grades, better self-esteem, and so on. There's a lot that goes into it.

Kerry:

Yeah. I'm sorry if I was smirking when I asked the question about like the one piece of advice,'cause I wasn't sure if you were gonna say read the book. Yeah.

Reham:

Well, of course, read the book. The book is available on Amazon. You can order it, you can Google it. You can Google my name and it will come up. Or you can Google not Google it. I mean, on Amazon, Amazon search, you can search by my name and it will come up or obviously by the, by the book name of course, also. So yeah, of course. Read the book.

Kerry:

So well, where, where can people find you if they wanna work with you? Obviously the book could be found on Amazon. You said you had a practice in Tampa

Reham:

Yeah. So my practice.

Kerry:

right?

Reham:

My practice is virtual. It's virtual only. Our practice is called focus, a DHD, how much I love A DHD, focus psychiatry clinic dot com. So that's the website. You can go on the website. You read more about us and what we offer and what we do, our pricing, the insurances we accept and all of that. You can also make an appointment directly there. From the website, there is a way to contact us and that will come to us as an email. There's our phone number listed there, so focus psychiatry clinic.com. That would probably be the easiest way to, to find me.

Kerry:

Perfect. Is there anything else in closing that you'd like to share other than our, I might ask if, are you gonna write another book since you already have one? Why don't you tell us the title of that

Reham:

I, I am thinking about it. So like I said before in the beginning, that I'm really now interested in obesity medicine. Okay. I really believe that obesity as an illness, as an as a disease is becoming. Really the true epidemic right now,

Kerry:

Yeah.

Reham:

and more specifically in children. So I'm thinking that my next book is going to be something related to obesity in children.

Kerry:

so we were talking about that I think before we started recording. And I was saying, yes, I need to have you come back so we can talk about this, this, this topic as well. But you know, I'm, I'm very supportive of your book and I definitely would probably like to read it myself, but it's a long queue of books I gotta read, so gotta have more time. But thank you. I mean, thank you so much for, you know, sharing your wisdom on our podcast today. And, I hope you come back so you can tell us all about how obesity intersects with psychiatric diagnosis. Oh my

Reham:

Absolutely. I would love to do that. It's, it's a passion of mine and it's a, a topic that's very dear to, to my heart.

Kerry:

Awesome. Yeah, so we will include all your information in the show notes and everybody stay tuned next week for next week's episode. Thank you so much.

Reham:

Thank you so much for having me.

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