Mind Over Matter: Rewiring Your Health with Dr. Maiysha Clairborne

Welcome to the Get Healthy Tampa Bay Podcast with Dr. Kerry Reller! This week I am joined by Dr. Maiysha Clairborne as she shares her expertise in integrative medicine and neurolinguistic programming (NLP). She dives into how shifting our mindset can impact our health, revealing the connection between our thoughts and well-being. Dr. Clairborne combines personal stories with actionable insights, offering listeners a guide to harnessing the power of their minds for healthier habits. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the profound effects of mental framing on physical health.

Dr. Maiysha Clairborne is an Integrative Physician, Thought Leader, Master Trainer of Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) and Hypnosis. Founder of Mind Re-Mapping Co. she helps coaches and healthcare professionals create dramatic results in the lives of others by helping them move past their internal fears, limiting beliefs & undesired behaviors so they can achieve the results they desire and ones they couldn’t imagine.  She teaches her students that by recognizing the impact that our unconscious thoughts and beliefs haveon the reality we create, we can empower ourselves, and assist others in getting in the driver’s seat of life.  Dr. Clairborne holds a BA in Psychology from Emory University. She obtained her MD from Morehouse School of Medicine and completed Family Medicine Residency at Florida Hospital. She is a TEDX Speaker, the author of The Wellness Blueprint and the host of The Black Mind Garden Podcast.

0:00 Introduction to Dr. Maiysha Clairborne
1:04 Who is Dr. Maiysha Clairborne?
3:04 The Power of Neurolinguistic Programming in Health
7:31 Real-life Impact of Mindset on Health
11:24 Expanding Health Beyond Conventional Exercise and Diet
15:28 Introduction to Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP)
20:44 Filters, Beliefs, and Reality in NLP
26:41 Practical Applications of NLP in Daily Life
31:13 Neuroplasticity and Lifelong Learning
34:26 Closing Thoughts and Resources

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Transcript

Kerry: 0:28

All right. Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the Get Healthy Tampa Bay podcast. Today we have a very special guest, Dr. Maiysha Clairborne from Atlanta. She's here to share her expertise. Welcome to the podcast.

Maiysha: 0:42

Thank you. It's so good to be here. And I have to say, I haven't been to Tampa in a while, but it is definitely a beautiful, beautiful place. The last time I was down there, I just loved loved the energy of Tampa. So I have to get back to you.

Kerry: 0:59

I was going to say you're going to need to come back. Very good. So why don't you tell us a little about who you are and what you do?

Maiysha: 1:04

Well my trained specialty is family medicine. But before I'm a doctor, I'm a mom. I have a nine year old son, and he's a lot of why I've gotten into what I do now. But I, my trained specialty is family medicine, and when I came out of residency, I went into integrative medicine. So I'm very, very passionate about marrying different disciplines to create the most empowered health in my patients. And so I had a clinical practice for about 10 years, and then I moved into the coaching realm. And during the time of my clinical practice, I started practicing neurolinguistic programming, which I know we're going to get into later and hypnosis. and then I became a trainer and I started teaching people that, about three years later, just because I felt like that that's it's such an important discipline for getting to the root of resistance and of people's mindsets about their wellbeing. And I got such great results when I integrated that into my practice, that I felt like this is something that other people should learn. Now, so I'm a mom, I'm a physician, I'm a coach, I'm a trainer, I'm a facilitator. And now what I do is I teach in organizations in addition to, working with individuals. I teach organizations around psychological safety and trauma informed communication. One of just, you know, I feel like right now I'm one of those movies that does a lot of flashbacks. In my undergraduate, I focused in psychology. And so I've always really been fascinated with human behavior and why we do the things we do, which is I think why I ended up in integrative medicine, like getting to the root of disease, getting to the root of people's health behaviors and how I ended up as a coach and now what I do with organizations as well. So that's sort of the trajectory of my very twisty, turny rollercoastery career.

Kerry: 3:04

Well, I mean, it started, I think, getting exposed to the psychology and, you know, college and stuff. So I think that's really helpful. I think I remember my college roommate was doing psychology and she was pre med. And at the time I was engineering, I'm like, I don't know what that stuff is. I don't know what they're learning, but look at that. It's coming back like full force now. And I'm well, like into it, not near as much as, you know, any other people like you, but I didn't know I was going to be exposed to that at all. So it was kind of fun to, to see that. So you have lots of, lots of accolades. I know you have your own podcast, you have a TEDx talk and you have many more things going on with you, but I'm so happy that you're here today. And we were kind of going to talk about like mindset, right. And how that impacts your health. So I mean, I guess we can dive right in if you'd like. Where would you start?

Maiysha: 3:55

Well, I think it starts with just the general awareness. Like I think a lot of people don't often think about how our thoughts and our beliefs and our values and our internal conversations about ourself impact our behaviors, our health behaviors and our resistance to certain things. I'll tell you a story. When I was in clinical before I, before I opened my own practice, I used to work for a large healthcare organization. And I was a contractor. And so I would go in and I would see overflow patients and I was seeing this one older guy, older black guy, and his wife was in the room with him. And in the chart, it said has discussed lifestyle practices. Patient hasn't changed their diet. So I, I asked him, what is the reason why you haven't shifted your diet? And he said, well eating healthy means that all I have to be eating is rabbit food. All I'm eating is, is salads and it gets boring after a while. And I just don't know how to sustain the diet. So it was really interesting in that moment, I realized that the resistance of many people to shift to healthy eating or healthy practices is based on the belief of what they think it's supposed to look like. So in that moment, I shared with him, I said, well, what if you could have the things that you liked and be healthy? Because I think people think it's either half the things you like or be healthy. And he said, can you teach me how to do that? And, I love to cook. I grew up in the South. So that means I didn't grow up eating super healthy, but in my quest to love the food, and I'm a foodie, so I like things that taste good, in my quest to make healthy taste good, I discovered lots of recipes, lots of modifications to recipes. So I talked to the guy and I said, okay, well, here's how you modify the things that you liked. And I had him give me a list of things and I would share with him how to modify it. And his wife was in the room and I said, I'd say, you get that? Would you get that? And I shared with him recipe websites that gave tips on how to modify traditionally unhealthy foods into healthy and good tasting foods. And wouldn't you know, the next time he came to see me, maybe it was a month later, his blood pressure was down and he was raving about how healthy he was eating. His wife was raving about all these new recipes that she had found. And just by shifting his belief about what eating healthy was supposed to look like. He was able to make the change, and I saw that happen with exercise as well because people used to think exercise is just going to the gym. And if you don't have a membership, or you have to walk and if you live in a place where walking is not accessible or you have to have weights and so when I would share like okay well do you like music. Do you like to dance? You know, if you like to dance, maybe you dance for 15 minutes or 20 minutes a day. And just shifting do you have someone that wants to walk with you or that likes to do things with you? People didn't like doing things on their own, you know? And so just by shifting the belief of, What something is supposed to look like it empowers a person to see different possibilities and make expanded choices. So I'll pause there because you know, I like to tell things in story form to make it real for people.

Kerry: 7:31

Yeah. I definitely agree. Like when you're growing up, you have all these biases or these pictures of what things may be right. And I really like your example as well, because I often like with my patients that I'm working with weight management, you know, I kind of have them define what it is, what is healthy, what is your ideal meal plan and things like that. And I think that is really helpful for them to see as well, because it may include some things that they may not be thinking of before. So I think that's, that's really good. And I also like how you kind of modify what they're currently eating to make it healthy, which is certainly possible, like getting, you know, substitutions for recipes or things like that. I don't usually like go in and like dive in and hand out recipes. But I mean, I think that's a great, great approach for doing that as well. And then you make another great point about, you know, exercise. I think a lot of people think they have to be running really hard or doing these HIIT high intensity interval training workouts, which are great but in reality just getting outside, going for a walk, fresh air. Maybe yoga, I don't know, stretching, anything that they like to do, moving their body more is just enough exercise. It doesn't have to be like torture, right?

Maiysha: 8:49

Yeah, it's interesting what that reminds me of as you're Sharing is I think another sort of belief, you know, false belief or a belief pattern, I should say, is resistance can come up because people focus on what they cannot do. Right. And so it's like, well, I can't do these types of exercises, or I can't exercise because of pain or maybe it's because a knee thing or a foot thing or because of a back thing. And the question I would ask is, well, what can you do? So it's a simple reframe, like, what can you do? And, or people who are like, well, I can't cook. Right. And so like really being inclusive about the questioning, you know, like I asked people, well, what can you do? So if you're listening, it's like, if you're saying, well, I can't do this because then the question is, what can you do? I can't do this because I don't have time. Oh, well, no one says you have to go and spend an hour and a half doing something. You know, these days, YouTube's got hit workouts that are like 10 minutes and they do modified versions.

Kerry: 9:57

Mm hmm.

Maiysha: 9:58

can you take 10 minutes to just go and turn on a YouTube video on your phone? If you don't have a TV or if you don't have cable, if you can you just turn on a video of YouTube, look up 10 minute workouts. For beginners if you have back pain, you know, or that have knee pain, the internet is such a rich place for you to start to find the things that you need. So then rather than, I can't do that because well, what can I do? Or how can I find,

Kerry: 10:36

Now you're making me want to go Google like, you know, exercises in 10 minutes for back pain and see if it exists. And if it doesn't, like there's a business opportunity for someone to make some sort of search for it. But I mean, I literally had this conversation with a nice young lady yesterday about, you know, she is limited with her back pain. And we were talking about how she could move more or anything just for mental health and everything else as well. And I went through the kind of the similar things of what you just said, like, can you do this? Can you swim? A lot of people are getting these, stepper things that they can do while they watch TV. So they're adding in like extra 10 minutes of stepping while they enjoy TV in the evening. I thought that was a great small addition. So, I mean there's all sorts of creative ideas. The next step is actually going and doing it.

Maiysha: 11:24

Exactly. I mean, something as simple as if you're sitting on a couch, can you sit up and stand up and sit down? You're actually basically doing squats if you're sitting up and standing up, sit down, sit up, sit down, sit up, sit down, right? Or If you happen to have stairs and you think you don't have time, walk up the stairs and walk down the stairs and walk back up the stairs and walk back down the stairs and walk back up the stairs, you know, like, it's just getting the steps in, right? I have people who would say, well, I can't cook. And my response is, well, can you read? And they said, well, yes, well, if you can read, then you can cook because really, if you can read a recipe and you can discover where to find some of the, and start with simple recipes and you can discover to find where to find the ingredients. And then you can put them together in the way that the thing says and follow the directions and guess what you can cook. Right, but then there are people who say, well, I don't like to cook. All right. Honoring that. There are so many other options to eat healthy, right? Now there are whole food delivery services. We didn't have that when I was younger. But like I used to say to patients before the, What are these food is the blue plate and the all the things that are like multiples of them. But I would say, well, what are the, restaurants or the fast food places that you could choose that could be healthy or what on the menu? Could you choose differently than what you would normally choose?

Kerry: 12:58

Yeah. Was just going to say that's a really good example as well, because they may think, oh, well, I have to go eat at xYZ place, and I know that there's really nothing there I can eat. So I have to eat this meal. That's, you know, the one I always choose or the favorite. And that may not be the most helpful one where they could make the conscious decision of choosing a different item on the menu that might build a healthier meal for them too. So yeah, I often try to coach people in doing that as well. But you mentioned like the meal delivery thing. There's, you know, huge industry here. There's many of those prepared health meals already delivered. So if they don't like to cook and they don't have, I think Blue Aprons a cooking one that you mentioned. It's like HelloFresh, right?

Maiysha: 13:41

Hello fresh yep.

Kerry: 13:42

Yeah. So these would be ones that you don't actually have to do the cooking. It's all prepared. You just heat it up. Yeah. So those are also alternatives. So they gotta, you know, I think I like this because you're trying to get them to think outside the box a little bit.

Maiysha: 13:58

And I mean, at the end of the day, all we're doing is reframing. A little language Kung Fu. I practice Kung Fu language Kung Fu or language Aikido, you know, language martial arts, where you redirect your thought processes To expand your possibilities and empower you. And that's a lot of what I do with neurolinguistic programming is I help people to recognize where their beliefs are not serving them, or sometimes they already recognize their beliefs are not serving them, and they don't know how to shift or change them. And so I help people to really shift those negative beliefs and that negative self talk into different self talk. Or different language so that it opens up the brain to see new possibilities, because really the brain can only see the possibilities as far as what our own belief systems are right. So we have these filters of we're taking in all this information and we have these filters that drive our behavior that drive our conversations. And what happens is when we can open up our beliefs, then we can actually open up the possibilities for what we see for our behaviors or in our communication and things of that nature.

Kerry: 15:18

So neuro linguistic probing is a little mouthful. Can you break it down I guess a little bit of like what that means. Like you actually changing the words or how does that work?

Maiysha: 15:28

Well, so if I break it down into its own segments, so neuro is the brain and the nervous system, and it's the way we receive information. We receive information through our senses, our five senses, what we see, hear, feel taste and touch or smell. And so that's an aspect of our experience. And then language is how we encode our experience, typically by words, but only 7 percent of our communication is words. So then there's the body language and there's the tone voice and things of that nature, so even as we have our internal self talk, you might not recognize it, but our own internal self talk has a tone. It has a cadence. It has a voice. And even shifting the tone of our internal self talk can shift what we see, feel and hear our experience of it neurologically. And then the programming are the automatic programs that we run in our head. Our brain is like a little computer and it has software and the software has been installed from our childhood. By our parents, by our, you know, our caretakers, by our teachers, by our society, by our friends. And so this programming gets installed, and then we are living our lives based on this programming. And so what this work is, is a way to upgrade our brain software. Upgrade our programming when our programming no longer serves us. You know, like in the computer and in our phones, we're always getting software updates. Every other week I get a notification about a software update and the software updates help our devices to, well, theoretically speaking, help devices to run more effectively, run more smoothly, run more efficiently. So it's the same way. When we're thinking about our thoughts and our beliefs, which is part of our software, our values, and everything that we've experienced, the way we view our past experience, it's part of the, the makeup of our software. And we can upgrade that by using language and certain tools and techniques that are ingrained in this particular discipline to upgrade that software. I mean, that's essentially what neuro linguistic programming is.

Kerry: 17:49

Okay. So I was listening to a audio book earlier today when I was running and they were also just talking about how you should continually learn, like reading and learning, throughout life. So are these ways to upgrade also like the sources that you're learning and can implement in your life, or is it really just kind of changing the reframing the thoughts and everything?

Maiysha: 18:13

It's really a little bit of both because if you think about the fact that when you upgrade your beliefs and you upgrade the sort of the values and what you see, then what it does is it gives you access to new capabilities. And you begin to believe that you can learn more so guess what you do. You go and you find those sources and you learn more and you learn differently. Because you have a different perspective and then what happens is you begin to believe differently than when you begin to do differently and it expands your belief even more, it starts to actually expand what your even like the the mission, you know what you stand for your identity begins to expand. And so it works on multiple levels, and I think part of that is because it works beyond the consciousness. It works in the subconscious mind and the unconscious mind. And so, yeah, it's both and

Kerry: 19:06

hmm. Mm hmm. I guess this is have you heard of the thought model?

Maiysha: 19:11

Oh, I haven't.

Kerry: 19:12

You haven't? Oh, okay. The thought model I think is a lot of drawing from some psychology research in the past and I think they use it a lot in like life coaching and things like that. So from the podcast that I had listened to, I'm no expert in it, but it's like the thoughts that you have create basically the actions which create the results, that kind of thing. Yeah. So, I mean, it's different than what you're describing because you're kind of talking about The biases, like the programming basically that you have, and then how you interact with the world based upon all the things that you're learning and how you can continually upgrade. So it's a little different, but it's also very interesting to hear kind of both perspectives on basically what our thoughts do and like you said, they're, you know, bias a little bit or framed in a certain way from childhood or whatever it is that's surrounding you. So. It's a different, I think you could take both aspects. I think it's kind of neat.

Maiysha: 20:08

Actually, you know, because our thoughts do create our actions. I think NLP nuances it a little bit more like there's the big picture like our thoughts create our behaviors you know and that creates our reality, right? And, and so NLP sort of breaks that down. Well, what creates thoughts, right? What is it that breaks down the thoughts? How we experience the world, those filters, like that kind of thing. So it just goes, it just nuances a little bit. But at the end of the day, big picture, that's exactly right. Our thoughts create our actions, and create what we see. And create our reality.

Kerry: 20:44

You mentioned something, something about filters and can you expand on that a little bit?

Maiysha: 20:50

Yeah. Well, in my TEDx talk, I talk about this way we receive information. And what most people don't realize is we're receiving a lot of information at every second, 11 million bits of information per second. Like you can't, I can't even like fathom 11 million bits of information, even in this moment, every single second, every second that I talk coming into my nervous system, that's what's happening for all of us. And so obviously our brain can't handle all of that. In fact, it can only handle about 134 bits per second. So you can imagine from 11 million to 134 is a huge gap. So it has to chunk it, it has to filter it into these manageable chunks, and it does that by distorting information by generalizing information and by deleting information like that. If you think about it, it's almost like if someone dropped 11 million toothpicks out of the sky, you grab what you could grab. And everything else just falls away, period. And so what the filters are, those filters are our thoughts, our beliefs, our past experiences our upbringing, our culture, our language. Those are the filters. And then once the information is filtered through all of those things, and there's a whole bunch more filters, right, but those are the big, those are the big picture main ones, are traumas. Right. Our traumas are our filters. And so then after it goes through those filters, then it creates our physiological response, like our emotions, right? Our physiological response. And then we label it as an emotion, like anger, sadness, frustration, whatever we label it as based on our experience. And we also label it in self talk as well. Then after that happens, that's what drives our behavior, our response. Our reaction, or our retreat. And so that's the role of the filters that's happening like really every moment.

Kerry: 22:53

Give me another example of how you would help someone, I guess, filter or make their thoughts better. I don't know how you want to phrase it, but can you think of anything?

Maiysha: 23:05

Well, yeah, how I help them so like sort of modify. I think one of the easiest ways that I do it and I tend to do this when I speak on stages is to just bring awareness to the filters and it sounds like the simplest thing, you know, it's interesting. This work is not. It's not, it's not super complex, although it sounds like it, like all the words that you use sound very complex, but at the end of the day, when you bring awareness to something, sometimes it's like they say you can't unsee that anymore. So when I bring awareness to, Oh, I have these filters. Then you can begin to ask yourself when you have a thought, what filters that thought going through. I'll give an example today. I was speaking with a client of mine and this client was sharing about this specific belief about needing to have a plan for every possibility, and that's a decision. And so I asked when was the 1st time you decided that right? So the question is, what are the filters that determined that you needed to have a plan for every possibility? And you begin to look at Oh, where did I decide that? And is it true? Is it true that I have to have a plan for every possibility? Is it useful to have a backup plan? Absolutely. But how is it serving me? How is it not serving? And so one of the ways is just to bring light to it, just to bring light to Oh, you know what? This is a filtered decision that I've made. What was the first time I decided that? Yeah. And where's the lie? Where's the lie? And if there's truth to it, what can I now see about the event around that? That can empower me so that I can let go of the harm that it's done.

Kerry: 25:07

Yeah. They go through like a thought bridge of changing the thought to, eventually little by little to like something that more be more would be true, I think, than what they're telling themselves.

Maiysha: 25:19

The other thing about it is that, you know, when you kind of discover the root of the ineffective thought or the root of the false belief, then you can look and identify where in your life that that belief has been holding you back all this time. So that could be whether it's been holding you back in your health, whether it's been holding you back in your relationships, whether it's been holding you back in your career, whether it's been holding you back in your finances. And then you can say, Oh, well, if that belief is no longer true. What could I believe. What could I believe and what's possible if I believe something that empowers me more? Cause the truth is, most of that stuff is made up. Like, you know, like, our reality is plastic. It's malleable. There are some realities, you know, gravity. It's a reality, right?

Kerry: 26:16

Right.

Maiysha: 26:17

Taxes, the fact that we'll die one day.

Kerry: 26:20

and taxes. Yeah,

Maiysha: 26:23

Right. But apart from that, there are some about our lives, individuals, there are realities that we can expand if we, if we expand our belief system and expand what we believe about ourselves and what's possible or possible we're capable of.

Kerry: 26:41

yeah. So I guess where, how does this go? You're doing corporate training now with like teaching other people how to do what you do. Is that right?

Maiysha: 26:50

So, yeah, I do. So there's two aspects. One is for people who are saying, wow, this work sounds really interesting. And how do I teach? How do I get the skills to be able to coach with others in this way? So I do run certifications for that. And there may be other people who are saying, wow, you know what? Yeah. What she's saying is really deep. I have a community or I have a leadership team, or I have an organization where this information might be useful, then I speak in organizations around it as well.

Kerry: 27:29

Okay. And do you travel for it? Or is it mostly Atlanta? Okay, good for you. Yeah.

Maiysha: 27:36

Yes, yes, I do travel. I'm very flexible around that. So I can do virtual, I can do in person, and I actually like to do in person workshops because, that energy, that in person energy is very, for me, it's just very impactful. And I think when people have the opportunity to be able to interact with each other, use all of their senses. Because people learn in different ways. People learn visually, people learn by listening, but also people learn by doing. And when you incorporate all of those senses into the learning, it just makes it more meaningful. And also, we're creatures of connection. so people can do this work in community, and they can connect with each other. Then that makes it more meaningful, and it makes it stick.

Kerry: 28:19

Yeah, absolutely. I remember a question I was going to ask. So you mentioned the word plastic and we're malleable. Have you used the term like neuroplasticity around like you throw that around? Okay. I feel like all these fancy words, like all get thrown in and they kind of all mean similar things. But what would you, what were you going to say about that?

Maiysha: 28:40

Well, I mean, yeah, it's just the, it's the concept that, you know, people, there used to be, we thought that once you get a certain age, your brain is, is, it's done. It's done. You can't develop anymore. But like understanding that our brain is always developing and we have the capacity to develop it more. If you think about malleability, if you think about flexibility, our brains are always creating new connections. That's how we learn, we don't stop learning, you know, if you, we don't, I don't turn like 35, which I am, I am far from right now, right? I don't turn 35 and like, well, that's it. Can't learn anything more. Boy, that would be a miserable life if I could not learn anymore. But we continue to read books and make new connections and we learn how to communicate differently. That is what neuroplasticity is, is basically the ability to continue learning and we are learning individuals. That is one of the things that makes us special is we have the capacity to learn until we die. I mean, you could be 90 learning, you know, you hear these crazy stories about people who are their 80s going back to college and here's the thing, if you stop learning, like if you intentionally cap yourself from learning, then the decline happens.

Kerry: 30:10

Mm hmm.

Maiysha: 30:11

And we see that in people who retire, if they just stop and sit and don't do anything but like consume mass media, and they don't like go out and they don't connect with people, their lifespan shortens. But then you see these people who they retire and they start a whole new life. That's like my mom and my dad and my aunties, like they retired. My mom moved to Mexico with her husband and they are like living their best life. Okay. Like I was like, I can't even wait to retire what, what 70, 75 looks like it's so different from what I pictured it as a young person, you know, what's portrayed in the media. So I say all that to say that's neuroplasticity. My dad, retired OBGYN surgeon, right, went from operating in women's bodies to doing mosaic art. What

Kerry: 31:13

Oh, wow.

Maiysha: 31:14

a great sublimation of his skill set. And we were having this conversation and he was like, yeah, I'm just, you know, I'm going to use this different. I'm going to use cloth. I'm going to do mosaics with cloth. And it's, I'm learning and it's different. And I'm a little bit nervous about it. And it's just so cute to see my dad nervous about learning, but that's what keeps him, you know what's the word? Spry

Kerry: 31:38

Mm hmm. Mm hmm.

Maiysha: 31:39

always learning and building decks. And I'm like, dad, I didn't know you had that in you.

Kerry: 31:44

That's awesome. I mean, I was basically going to say something very similar in that, continually learning and learning new skills is one of the keys to longevity, right? If you wait, if you do retire it's better to pick up a new habit or skill, learn a new language or anything like that that help keep your brain functioning and regrowing those synapses and everything like that. So I think you're spot on at that. And I also kind of try to emulate it for my kids. They're like, Mommy, why are you going to a conference? I'm going to learn more. You never stop. And like continually reading things and setting good examples for that. So kind of trying to teach the young and support the old too. So I think it's really important like you were saying.

Maiysha: 32:27

I love that you said that you model that for your kids because I was just thinking how my son started Kung Fu when he was five. And it was something that I always wanted to do, but at some point I thought, well, maybe I'm a little too old for that. And then at five, he started and about a year and a half in, I was sort of like encouraging him by going to the classes with him. And then the dojo was like, well, you know, all the forums, why don't you join? So at 40. Something far- 44 40, what am I, 48 now? So about 44, 45 I started Kung Fu and it's like at any age you can start doing what you're doing. At any age you can learn. And I started performing. And so then he's like, I don't know if I want to perform. I said, well, you know, mommy gets nervous. We were actually having this conversation last night. Well, you know, I don't want to do the dragon dance. It's this dragon, like sort of like a ribbon thing. Right. Cause I just, I'm gonna just mess up. And I was like, when we first started performing, mommy messed up a whole lot of times when we were performing, but the only way to learn is to mess up.

Kerry: 33:40

Mm

Maiysha: 33:40

You do it, you mess up and then you get better and you keep practicing, you keep practicing. So I love that you talk about modeling that to our kids because I think in our younger generation there's somewhat blame it on the X generation, you know, we want our kids to have set. We want it. I'm a older mom, but for my ex gen cohorts that had children younger than me, want their lives to be so much better that there may be shield them from learning the things that they need to learn, and so letting them learn, letting them fail and, and letting them get the context that failure is just part of like learning and growing and expanding. It's nothing bad. It's just what is,

Kerry: 34:16

Mm hmm. Yeah. No, I love that. That's perfect. Is there anything else you'd like to share with the listeners today? It's been a great conversation.

Maiysha: 34:26

such a great conversation. No, you know, I think that we've covered so much. And so if I were to leave them with something, it's just to examine your thoughts. and your beliefs and examine the source of them before you just decide that they're true, right? That truth is malleable. Truth is, you know, it's movable. And then maybe you will find that in examining your past beliefs and where they come from, that you see newer, more expanded possibilities.

Kerry: 35:02

That was perfect summary of I think everything that we were kind of just discussing. Love it. If people want to work with you, how would they find you or listen to your podcast?

Maiysha: 35:13

My website is MindRemappingAcademy. com. And if you go there, you will find where you can, if you're interested in the training, you can actually take the training. If you're interested in working with me one on one, there's a way to reach out to me there. And also if you are wanting to have me come speak that you can actually contact me through there. So that's mind remapping academy. com. And then I'm on social media. On LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram are my top ones. And YouTube and that's backslash Dr. Maiysha. So everything's backslash Dr. Maiysha. And the podcast is called The Black Mind Garden. And it's where you can learn a lot more about the work that I do. And if you're like, this non linguistic programming thing sounds interesting, but I need to know more information. Then that's where I talk about the components and the elements and how I use it in corporate. And how I apply it in families and how I apply it as a parent. And so that's the way you can learn more.

Kerry: 36:15

Very good. All right. We'll put all that in the show notes. Thank you so much, Dr. Clairborne for joining us today. And everybody tune in next week for listening for more.

Maiysha: 36:25

Thank you for having me.